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    <description>At Draw Near, we explore the beautiful truth that God, out of His deep and personal love for each of us, takes the first step to draw near. But this divine movement calls for a response—a response that shapes our lives and transforms our hearts. Together, we embark on this journey of faith, discovering the many ways God's grace and the power of the Holy Spirit work within us. Rooted in the Catholic faith, our podcast is a space where authenticity meets joy. We’re two best friends navigating life, family, and faith with honesty, humility, and a lot of love. Each episode is a heartfelt conversation—sometimes deep, sometimes lighthearted, but always real. We strive to be vulnerable, faithful, and passionate, sharing insights and stories to inspire you on your path toward Christ. This is more than a podcast; it’s a shared journey toward sainthood. So come laugh with us, reflect with us, and grow with us as we Draw Near to God and one another. Let’s set out together on this adventure of faith, friendship, and grace.</description>
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    <itunes:subtitle>Helping each person to draw near to Christ and to one another. </itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>At Draw Near, we explore the beautiful truth that God, out of His deep and personal love for each of us, takes the first step to draw near. But this divine movement calls for a response—a response that shapes our lives and transforms our hearts. Together, we embark on this journey of faith, discovering the many ways God's grace and the power of the Holy Spirit work within us. Rooted in the Catholic faith, our podcast is a space where authenticity meets joy. We’re two best friends navigating life, family, and faith with honesty, humility, and a lot of love. Each episode is a heartfelt conversation—sometimes deep, sometimes lighthearted, but always real. We strive to be vulnerable, faithful, and passionate, sharing insights and stories to inspire you on your path toward Christ. This is more than a podcast; it’s a shared journey toward sainthood. So come laugh with us, reflect with us, and grow with us as we Draw Near to God and one another. Let’s set out together on this adventure of faith, friendship, and grace.</itunes:summary>
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  <title>Fred's Journey to Christ: From Brokenness to Beloved</title>
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  <pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2026 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Many listeners have asked to hear more of Fred's story, and in this episode, he shares it.

From a difficult childhood and experiences that left deep wounds, to the moments that shaped his faith, Fred reflects on why he often says, "I shouldn't be alive." More importantly, he shares where Christ was in the midst of the suffering—even when he couldn't see Him.

This is a story of pain, survival, grace, and the relentless love of God that pursues us through every chapter of our lives.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;TRIGGER WARNING! Many people have asked to hear more of Fred's story. In this episode, he opens up about parts of his life he doesn't often share publicly.&lt;br&gt;
This episode of Draw Near contains adult themes; we do not recommend listening in the presence of children. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Through an honest conversation with Kara, Fred reflects on his childhood, the hardships he experienced, and the wounds throughout his early life. He shares why he often says, &lt;em&gt;"I shouldn't be alive,"&lt;/em&gt; and how there were moments when his future seemed uncertain.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yet this episode is about far more than suffering or past wounds. Looking back, Fred can now see how Christ was present even in the darkest seasons: through unexpected people, quiet moments of grace, and circumstances that helped lead him toward healing and faith. What once seemed like random events now reveal a story of God's providence and relentless pursuit.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this episode, we discuss:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Fred's childhood and family experiences&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  The challenges and wounds that marked his early years&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Why he says he "shouldn't be alive"&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  The lasting impact of suffering and brokenness&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Where Christ was present throughout the journey&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  How God works even when we cannot see Him&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  The path that eventually led Fred to deeper faith and conversion&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Hope for anyone who feels trapped by their past&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whether your story is marked by loss, pain, disappointment, or unanswered questions, this conversation is a reminder that God is never absent. He is often working in ways we cannot yet understand.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As Jesus says in the Parable of the Prodigal Son (and Kara referenced in the episode): &lt;br&gt;
"For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found." (Luke 15:24)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No wound is beyond Christ's reach. No story is beyond redemption.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;*&lt;em&gt;Resources Mentioned&lt;br&gt;
*&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  OCIA curriculum from Ascension: &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeJl-lPwCsQ" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;INVITED Webinar&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  &lt;a href="https://www.drawnear.me/drawnearshop/p/the-surrender-journal" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;The Surrender Journal&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;*&lt;em&gt;Listen Next&lt;br&gt;
*&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br&gt;
If this episode resonates with you, consider listening to Fred's other testimony episodes, where he shares more about his conversion, his Catholic faith, and the ways God continues to work in his life today.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  Fred's First Testimony Episode: &lt;a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6umqaZpjeLTE7AtTN9hYxt?si=Phe_mSs-TE2TXpzu1RAP1w" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;From Heathen to Heaven&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;  "Why are you Catholic?" &lt;a href="https://drawnear.fireside.fm/9" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Testimony&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For reflections, formation, and community, &lt;strong&gt;FOLLOW Draw Near on Social Media:&lt;/strong&gt; @drawnearbygrace&lt;br&gt;
 &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/@drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
 &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnearbygrace/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! &lt;br&gt;
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our &lt;a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;home page. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell &lt;/p&gt;
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    <![CDATA[<p>TRIGGER WARNING! Many people have asked to hear more of Fred's story. In this episode, he opens up about parts of his life he doesn't often share publicly.<br>
This episode of Draw Near contains adult themes; we do not recommend listening in the presence of children. </p>

<p>Through an honest conversation with Kara, Fred reflects on his childhood, the hardships he experienced, and the wounds throughout his early life. He shares why he often says, <em>"I shouldn't be alive,"</em> and how there were moments when his future seemed uncertain.</p>

<p>Yet this episode is about far more than suffering or past wounds. Looking back, Fred can now see how Christ was present even in the darkest seasons: through unexpected people, quiet moments of grace, and circumstances that helped lead him toward healing and faith. What once seemed like random events now reveal a story of God's providence and relentless pursuit.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>  Fred's childhood and family experiences</li>
<li>  The challenges and wounds that marked his early years</li>
<li>  Why he says he "shouldn't be alive"</li>
<li>  The lasting impact of suffering and brokenness</li>
<li>  Where Christ was present throughout the journey</li>
<li>  How God works even when we cannot see Him</li>
<li>  The path that eventually led Fred to deeper faith and conversion</li>
<li>  Hope for anyone who feels trapped by their past</li>
</ul>

<p>Whether your story is marked by loss, pain, disappointment, or unanswered questions, this conversation is a reminder that God is never absent. He is often working in ways we cannot yet understand.</p>

<p>As Jesus says in the Parable of the Prodigal Son (and Kara referenced in the episode): <br>
"For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found." (Luke 15:24)</p>

<p>No wound is beyond Christ's reach. No story is beyond redemption.</p>

<p>*<em>Resources Mentioned<br>
*</em></p>

<ul>
<li>  OCIA curriculum from Ascension: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeJl-lPwCsQ" rel="nofollow noopener">INVITED Webinar</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/drawnearshop/p/the-surrender-journal" rel="nofollow noopener">The Surrender Journal</a></li>
</ul>

<p>*<em>Listen Next<br>
*</em><br>
If this episode resonates with you, consider listening to Fred's other testimony episodes, where he shares more about his conversion, his Catholic faith, and the ways God continues to work in his life today.</p>

<ul>
<li>  Fred's First Testimony Episode: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6umqaZpjeLTE7AtTN9hYxt?si=Phe_mSs-TE2TXpzu1RAP1w" rel="nofollow noopener">From Heathen to Heaven</a></li>
<li>  "Why are you Catholic?" <a href="https://drawnear.fireside.fm/9" rel="nofollow noopener">Testimony</a></li>
</ul>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW Draw Near on Social Media:</strong> @drawnearbygrace<br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnearbygrace/" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/drawnearbygrace/" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow noopener">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! <br>
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>TRIGGER WARNING! Many people have asked to hear more of Fred's story. In this episode, he opens up about parts of his life he doesn't often share publicly.<br>
This episode of Draw Near contains adult themes; we do not recommend listening in the presence of children. </p>

<p>Through an honest conversation with Kara, Fred reflects on his childhood, the hardships he experienced, and the wounds throughout his early life. He shares why he often says, <em>"I shouldn't be alive,"</em> and how there were moments when his future seemed uncertain.</p>

<p>Yet this episode is about far more than suffering or past wounds. Looking back, Fred can now see how Christ was present even in the darkest seasons: through unexpected people, quiet moments of grace, and circumstances that helped lead him toward healing and faith. What once seemed like random events now reveal a story of God's providence and relentless pursuit.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>  Fred's childhood and family experiences</li>
<li>  The challenges and wounds that marked his early years</li>
<li>  Why he says he "shouldn't be alive"</li>
<li>  The lasting impact of suffering and brokenness</li>
<li>  Where Christ was present throughout the journey</li>
<li>  How God works even when we cannot see Him</li>
<li>  The path that eventually led Fred to deeper faith and conversion</li>
<li>  Hope for anyone who feels trapped by their past</li>
</ul>

<p>Whether your story is marked by loss, pain, disappointment, or unanswered questions, this conversation is a reminder that God is never absent. He is often working in ways we cannot yet understand.</p>

<p>As Jesus says in the Parable of the Prodigal Son (and Kara referenced in the episode): <br>
"For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found." (Luke 15:24)</p>

<p>No wound is beyond Christ's reach. No story is beyond redemption.</p>

<p>*<em>Resources Mentioned<br>
*</em></p>

<ul>
<li>  OCIA curriculum from Ascension: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeJl-lPwCsQ" rel="nofollow noopener">INVITED Webinar</a></li>
<li>  <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/drawnearshop/p/the-surrender-journal" rel="nofollow noopener">The Surrender Journal</a></li>
</ul>

<p>*<em>Listen Next<br>
*</em><br>
If this episode resonates with you, consider listening to Fred's other testimony episodes, where he shares more about his conversion, his Catholic faith, and the ways God continues to work in his life today.</p>

<ul>
<li>  Fred's First Testimony Episode: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6umqaZpjeLTE7AtTN9hYxt?si=Phe_mSs-TE2TXpzu1RAP1w" rel="nofollow noopener">From Heathen to Heaven</a></li>
<li>  "Why are you Catholic?" <a href="https://drawnear.fireside.fm/9" rel="nofollow noopener">Testimony</a></li>
</ul>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW Draw Near on Social Media:</strong> @drawnearbygrace<br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnearbygrace/" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/drawnearbygrace/" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow noopener">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! <br>
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Real Ministry is Personal</title>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2026 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In this "roadside reflection" on 1 Thessalonians 2:8–9, Kara discusses authentic discipleship, vulnerability, and why real ministry can be deeply personal. She also share updates on Draw Near's recent writing project with Ascension Press, and where God led the mission over this past Lent. </itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;Real ministry is not built on polished content... it is built when we are willing to share our very selves.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this roadside reflection episode, Kara finally shares what Fred and her recent writing project has been (with Ascension Press) and reflects on a personal passage from St. Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:8–9:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;“So, being affectionately desirous of you, we were ready to share with you not only the gospel of God but also our own selves…” &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This conversation dives into vulnerability, discipleship, authentic ministry, loving others even when it is difficult, and what it means to hope for others.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also, the audio quality is a little different this episode. Life and family obligations have made studio recording difficult lately, so I pray this “roadside reflections” is okay!  Enjoy some Brother Francis and Veggie Tales in the background.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Follow Draw Near on social media and join us as we continue building a community centered on prayer, authentic faith, discipleship, and drawing near to God and one another.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For reflections, formation, and community, &lt;strong&gt;FOLLOW Draw Near by Grace on all Social Media:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br&gt;
 &lt;a href="https://www.youtube.com/@drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;YouTube&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;
 &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;
 &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Facebook!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! &lt;br&gt;
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our &lt;a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;home page. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell &lt;/p&gt;
</description>
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  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Real ministry is not built on polished content... it is built when we are willing to share our very selves.</p>

<p>In this roadside reflection episode, Kara finally shares what Fred and her recent writing project has been (with Ascension Press) and reflects on a personal passage from St. Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:8–9:</p>

<p>“So, being affectionately desirous of you, we were ready to share with you not only the gospel of God but also our own selves…” </p>

<p>This conversation dives into vulnerability, discipleship, authentic ministry, loving others even when it is difficult, and what it means to hope for others.</p>

<p>Also, the audio quality is a little different this episode. Life and family obligations have made studio recording difficult lately, so I pray this “roadside reflections” is okay!  Enjoy some Brother Francis and Veggie Tales in the background.</p>

<p>Follow Draw Near on social media and join us as we continue building a community centered on prayer, authentic faith, discipleship, and drawing near to God and one another.</p>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW Draw Near by Grace on all Social Media:</strong> <br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow noopener">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! <br>
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Real ministry is not built on polished content... it is built when we are willing to share our very selves.</p>

<p>In this roadside reflection episode, Kara finally shares what Fred and her recent writing project has been (with Ascension Press) and reflects on a personal passage from St. Paul in 1 Thessalonians 2:8–9:</p>

<p>“So, being affectionately desirous of you, we were ready to share with you not only the gospel of God but also our own selves…” </p>

<p>This conversation dives into vulnerability, discipleship, authentic ministry, loving others even when it is difficult, and what it means to hope for others.</p>

<p>Also, the audio quality is a little different this episode. Life and family obligations have made studio recording difficult lately, so I pray this “roadside reflections” is okay!  Enjoy some Brother Francis and Veggie Tales in the background.</p>

<p>Follow Draw Near on social media and join us as we continue building a community centered on prayer, authentic faith, discipleship, and drawing near to God and one another.</p>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW Draw Near by Grace on all Social Media:</strong> <br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@drawnearbygrace" rel="nofollow noopener">YouTube</a> <br>
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Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>What to Do When the Service is Bad</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/236</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 00:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>How do you actually share your faith—without fear or feeling like you have to have all the answers?
In this short episode, Fred reflects on a simple, ordinary moment that became a doorway for grace. What started as a late-night stop for ice cream after church turned into months of prayer, presence, encouragement, and quiet fidelity—and ultimately, a life gently redirected toward healing, hope, and the Church.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>7:26</itunes:duration>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;How do you actually share your faith—without fear, awkward moments, or feeling like you have to have all the answers?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this short episode, Fred reflects on a simple, ordinary moment that became a doorway for grace. What started as a late-night stop for ice cream after church turned into months of prayer, presence, encouragement, and quiet fidelity—and ultimately, a life gently redirected toward healing, hope, and the Church.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;This story reminds us that sharing our faith doesn’t usually begin with arguments or explanations. It begins with noticing, listening, and having the courage to say a simple “yes” when the Holy Spirit nudges.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Because sometimes, the most powerful witness of the Gospel sounds like this:&lt;br&gt;
“We’re about to pray. Is there anything we can pray for you about?”&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "&lt;a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;booking page&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. &lt;br&gt;
"Like" and follow us on &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Facebook!&lt;/a&gt;. Follow us on &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our &lt;a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;home page. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell &lt;/p&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>Catholic podcast, Draw Near, Fred and Kara, ice cream</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>How do you actually share your faith—without fear, awkward moments, or feeling like you have to have all the answers?</p>

<p>In this short episode, Fred reflects on a simple, ordinary moment that became a doorway for grace. What started as a late-night stop for ice cream after church turned into months of prayer, presence, encouragement, and quiet fidelity—and ultimately, a life gently redirected toward healing, hope, and the Church.</p>

<p>This story reminds us that sharing our faith doesn’t usually begin with arguments or explanations. It begins with noticing, listening, and having the courage to say a simple “yes” when the Holy Spirit nudges.</p>

<p>Because sometimes, the most powerful witness of the Gospel sounds like this:<br>
“We’re about to pray. Is there anything we can pray for you about?”</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow noopener">booking page</a>."</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow noopener">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
"Like" and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>How do you actually share your faith—without fear, awkward moments, or feeling like you have to have all the answers?</p>

<p>In this short episode, Fred reflects on a simple, ordinary moment that became a doorway for grace. What started as a late-night stop for ice cream after church turned into months of prayer, presence, encouragement, and quiet fidelity—and ultimately, a life gently redirected toward healing, hope, and the Church.</p>

<p>This story reminds us that sharing our faith doesn’t usually begin with arguments or explanations. It begins with noticing, listening, and having the courage to say a simple “yes” when the Holy Spirit nudges.</p>

<p>Because sometimes, the most powerful witness of the Gospel sounds like this:<br>
“We’re about to pray. Is there anything we can pray for you about?”</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow noopener">booking page</a>."</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow noopener">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
"Like" and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>The Soul of the Apostolate</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/169</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>We are joined by our good friend Eric Gallagher over the next five epsiodes on the apostolate and the interior life! This episode originally posted as part of the Substack platform/podcast we share with Eric, called I See a Movement! We thought this series would be a blessing to all of our Draw Near listeners on your Lenten journey. And of course... we also want you to check out https://www.iseeamovement.com/ 

In this episdoe, we begin by laying a foundation for this new season. Here we look at the foundational truth, that by grace and the power of the Holy Spirit at work in our souls, we are apostles. We take an honest look at what this means for our our lives; and discuss our tendency to want to be independent and in control. We look at the value and necessity of the interior life, and the role our relationship with Christ bears in the fruitfulness of our efforts. We also take a look at the importance of prayer and humility as the greatest strength. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:38</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>&lt;p&gt;We are joined by our good friend Eric Gallagher over the next five epsiodes on the apostolate and the interior life! This episode originally posted as part of the Substack platform/podcast we share with Eric, called I See a Movement! We thought this series would be a blessing to all of our Draw Near listeners on your Lenten journey. And of course... we also want you to check out &lt;a href="https://www.iseeamovement.com/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;https://www.iseeamovement.com/&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this episdoe, we begin by laying a foundation for this new season. Here we look at the foundational truth, that by grace and the power of the Holy Spirit at work in our souls, we are apostles. We take an honest look at what this means for our our lives; and discuss our tendency to want to be independent and in control. We look at the value and necessity of the interior life, and the role our relationship with Christ bears in the fruitfulness of our efforts. We also take a look at the importance of prayer and humility as the greatest strength. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "&lt;a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;booking page&lt;/a&gt;."&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Click here&lt;/a&gt; to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. &lt;br&gt;
"Like" and follow us on &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Facebook!&lt;/a&gt;. Follow us on &lt;a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;Instagram&lt;/a&gt;! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our &lt;a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener"&gt;home page. &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell &lt;/p&gt;
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  <itunes:keywords>Discipleship, Evangelization, Catholic, Ministry, Apostolate, Relational Ministry, Interior Life, Apostolate</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>We are joined by our good friend Eric Gallagher over the next five epsiodes on the apostolate and the interior life! This episode originally posted as part of the Substack platform/podcast we share with Eric, called I See a Movement! We thought this series would be a blessing to all of our Draw Near listeners on your Lenten journey. And of course... we also want you to check out <a href="https://www.iseeamovement.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.iseeamovement.com/</a> </p>

<p>In this episdoe, we begin by laying a foundation for this new season. Here we look at the foundational truth, that by grace and the power of the Holy Spirit at work in our souls, we are apostles. We take an honest look at what this means for our our lives; and discuss our tendency to want to be independent and in control. We look at the value and necessity of the interior life, and the role our relationship with Christ bears in the fruitfulness of our efforts. We also take a look at the importance of prayer and humility as the greatest strength. </p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow noopener">booking page</a>."</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow noopener">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
"Like" and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>We are joined by our good friend Eric Gallagher over the next five epsiodes on the apostolate and the interior life! This episode originally posted as part of the Substack platform/podcast we share with Eric, called I See a Movement! We thought this series would be a blessing to all of our Draw Near listeners on your Lenten journey. And of course... we also want you to check out <a href="https://www.iseeamovement.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.iseeamovement.com/</a> </p>

<p>In this episdoe, we begin by laying a foundation for this new season. Here we look at the foundational truth, that by grace and the power of the Holy Spirit at work in our souls, we are apostles. We take an honest look at what this means for our our lives; and discuss our tendency to want to be independent and in control. We look at the value and necessity of the interior life, and the role our relationship with Christ bears in the fruitfulness of our efforts. We also take a look at the importance of prayer and humility as the greatest strength. </p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow noopener">booking page</a>."</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow noopener">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
"Like" and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow noopener">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow noopener">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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