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    <title>Draw Near - Episodes Tagged with “Discipleship”</title>
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    <description>At Draw Near, we explore the beautiful truth that God, out of His deep and personal love for each of us, takes the first step to draw near. But this divine movement calls for a response—a response that shapes our lives and transforms our hearts. Together, we embark on this journey of faith, discovering the many ways God's grace and the power of the Holy Spirit work within us.
Rooted in the Catholic faith, our podcast is a space where authenticity meets joy. We’re two best friends navigating life, family, and faith with honesty, humility, and a lot of love. Each episode is a heartfelt conversation—sometimes deep, sometimes lighthearted, but always real. We strive to be vulnerable, faithful, and passionate, sharing insights and stories to inspire you on your path toward Christ.
This is more than a podcast; it’s a shared journey toward sainthood. So come laugh with us, reflect with us, and grow with us as we Draw Near to God and one another. Let’s set out together on this adventure of faith, friendship, and grace.
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    <itunes:subtitle>Helping each person to draw near to Christ and to one another. </itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>At Draw Near, we explore the beautiful truth that God, out of His deep and personal love for each of us, takes the first step to draw near. But this divine movement calls for a response—a response that shapes our lives and transforms our hearts. Together, we embark on this journey of faith, discovering the many ways God's grace and the power of the Holy Spirit work within us.
Rooted in the Catholic faith, our podcast is a space where authenticity meets joy. We’re two best friends navigating life, family, and faith with honesty, humility, and a lot of love. Each episode is a heartfelt conversation—sometimes deep, sometimes lighthearted, but always real. We strive to be vulnerable, faithful, and passionate, sharing insights and stories to inspire you on your path toward Christ.
This is more than a podcast; it’s a shared journey toward sainthood. So come laugh with us, reflect with us, and grow with us as we Draw Near to God and one another. Let’s set out together on this adventure of faith, friendship, and grace.
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  <title>Grafted Into God: The Interior Life of Romans 11</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Explore the meaning of being “grafted into God” in Romans 11 and what it reveals about the interior life, vulnerability, and union with Christ. This episode unpacks the biblical image of grafting and how God transforms our hearts through grace, leading us into deeper relationship and spiritual fruitfulness.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>What if being united to God begins with being cut open?
In this episode of Draw Near, we explore Romans 11 and the powerful image of being “grafted” into God. Using the biblical metaphor of the olive tree, St. Paul reveals something profound about the spiritual life: union with God is living, dependent, and deeply transformative.
Grafting is no gentle process. It requires cutting, exposure, and vulnerability before new life can take hold. And the same is true in our relationship with God. He does not simply improve us from the outside; he works within us, cutting away what is hardened so that we can receive his life more fully.
We reflect on how God is the root who sustains us, how we are invited to remain in him, and what it means to bear interior fruit fruit that comes not from our own strength, but from grace. Drawing connections to Ezekiel 36 and the promise of a new heart, this episode invites you to consider how God may be at work in the hidden places of your life; and what areas of your own life have you hardened? 
If you’ve ever wrestled with vulnerability, struggled to trust God in the midst of difficulty, or wondered how real transformation actually happens—this conversation is for you.
Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
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    <![CDATA[<p>What if being united to God begins with being cut open?</p>

<p>In this episode of Draw Near, we explore Romans 11 and the powerful image of being “grafted” into God. Using the biblical metaphor of the olive tree, St. Paul reveals something profound about the spiritual life: union with God is living, dependent, and deeply transformative.</p>

<p>Grafting is no gentle process. It requires cutting, exposure, and vulnerability before new life can take hold. And the same is true in our relationship with God. He does not simply improve us from the outside; he works within us, cutting away what is hardened so that we can receive his life more fully.</p>

<p>We reflect on how God is the root who sustains us, how we are invited to remain in him, and what it means to bear <em>interior fruit</em> fruit that comes not from our own strength, but from grace. Drawing connections to Ezekiel 36 and the promise of a new heart, this episode invites you to consider how God may be at work in the hidden places of your life; and what areas of your own life have you hardened? </p>

<p>If you’ve ever wrestled with vulnerability, struggled to trust God in the midst of difficulty, or wondered how real transformation actually happens—this conversation is for you.</p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn&#39;t be &quot;Draw Near&quot; without your support! <br>
Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What if being united to God begins with being cut open?</p>

<p>In this episode of Draw Near, we explore Romans 11 and the powerful image of being “grafted” into God. Using the biblical metaphor of the olive tree, St. Paul reveals something profound about the spiritual life: union with God is living, dependent, and deeply transformative.</p>

<p>Grafting is no gentle process. It requires cutting, exposure, and vulnerability before new life can take hold. And the same is true in our relationship with God. He does not simply improve us from the outside; he works within us, cutting away what is hardened so that we can receive his life more fully.</p>

<p>We reflect on how God is the root who sustains us, how we are invited to remain in him, and what it means to bear <em>interior fruit</em> fruit that comes not from our own strength, but from grace. Drawing connections to Ezekiel 36 and the promise of a new heart, this episode invites you to consider how God may be at work in the hidden places of your life; and what areas of your own life have you hardened? </p>

<p>If you’ve ever wrestled with vulnerability, struggled to trust God in the midst of difficulty, or wondered how real transformation actually happens—this conversation is for you.</p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn&#39;t be &quot;Draw Near&quot; without your support! <br>
Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Penance: The Desert Where God Transforms Us</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Suffering is where transformation begins, but what does that have to do with Lent?

In this Ash Wednesday episode of Draw Near, Fred and Kara explore the meaning of penance, the purpose of the desert season, and how suffering can become a place of spiritual growth that leads toward resurrection. Why does Lent begin with ashes and words about death? How does penance train the heart? And how does the journey through sacrifice open us to new life in Christ?</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Suffering is where transformation begins! What does that have to do with Lent? 
Many of us approach Lent thinking about what we have to give up. But what if Lent isn’t mainly about loss… but about what God wants to build within us?
In this episode, we explore the deeper meaning of penance, suffering, and the desert season of Lent. Why does the Church begin with ashes and words about death? How does penance actually train the heart? And why does every sacrifice ultimately point toward resurrection?
Journal Questions:
1. Where in my life right now feels like a desert, and how might God be inviting me to encounter Him there rather than escape it?
2. What comfort, habit, or attachment might God be asking me to surrender so He can build something deeper in me?
3. If resurrection always follows the cross, what “new life” might God be preparing in me through this season?
For reflections, formation, and community, FOLLOW us on Social Media: 
 YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara) 
 Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)
 Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara)
Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Suffering is where <em>transformation</em> begins! What does that have to do with Lent? </p>

<p>Many of us approach Lent thinking about what we have to give up. But what if Lent isn’t mainly about loss… but about what God wants to build within us?</p>

<p>In this episode, we explore the deeper meaning of penance, suffering, and the desert season of Lent. Why does the Church begin with ashes and words about death? How does penance actually train the heart? And why does every sacrifice ultimately point toward resurrection?</p>

<p><strong>Journal Questions:</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Where in my life right now feels like a desert, and how might God be inviting me to encounter Him there rather than escape it?</li>
<li>What comfort, habit, or attachment might God be asking me to surrender so He can build something deeper in me?</li>
<li>If resurrection always follows the cross, what “new life” might God be preparing in me through this season?</li>
</ol>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW us on Social Media:</strong> <br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn&#39;t be &quot;Draw Near&quot; without your support! <br>
Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Suffering is where <em>transformation</em> begins! What does that have to do with Lent? </p>

<p>Many of us approach Lent thinking about what we have to give up. But what if Lent isn’t mainly about loss… but about what God wants to build within us?</p>

<p>In this episode, we explore the deeper meaning of penance, suffering, and the desert season of Lent. Why does the Church begin with ashes and words about death? How does penance actually train the heart? And why does every sacrifice ultimately point toward resurrection?</p>

<p><strong>Journal Questions:</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Where in my life right now feels like a desert, and how might God be inviting me to encounter Him there rather than escape it?</li>
<li>What comfort, habit, or attachment might God be asking me to surrender so He can build something deeper in me?</li>
<li>If resurrection always follows the cross, what “new life” might God be preparing in me through this season?</li>
</ol>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW us on Social Media:</strong> <br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn&#39;t be &quot;Draw Near&quot; without your support! <br>
Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>If Jesus Is Lord, Life Looks Different</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2025 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>In a gentle (yet challenging) episode on Luke 6:46, Fred and Kara explore Jesus's words to his followers: "Why do you call me Lord Lord and do not do what I tell you?" This episode takes an honest look at what it means to actually live Jesus words from Scripture and his personal promptings to each of our hearts. We explore the freedom and difficulties in the promptings of the Spirit, real obedience even when teachings are hard, and how to discern the deeper “yes” God is inviting you into.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>If we truly believe Jesus is Lord, then his words matter… even the ones that challenge us. In this week’s conversation, we reflect on Luke 6:46: “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?” Jesus does not rebuke here, but invites each of us personally to reflect on teachings, words from God, or passages of Scripture we truly believe. Let's also allow it to be an invitation to ask: which of Jesus's words and teachings have I forgotten or discarded because they are difficult. 
All of us have places where obedience feels costly or inconvenient. Yet Jesus never calls us to follow him on our own strength. Let's also look at what he does to help us? 
Throughout the episode, we also explore:
* how the Holy Spirit prompts us toward deeper faithfulness
* why some of Jesus’ teachings feel difficult and what that says about our spiritual growth
* how grace strengthens our weak places
* the invitation to reflect on areas where we’re not fully following him
* the simple, daily yes that forms real discipleship
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
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    <![CDATA[<p>If we truly believe Jesus is Lord, then his words matter… even the ones that challenge us. In this week’s conversation, we reflect on Luke 6:46: “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?” Jesus does not rebuke here, but invites each of us personally to reflect on teachings, words from God, or passages of Scripture we truly believe. Let&#39;s also allow it to be an invitation to ask: which of Jesus&#39;s words and teachings have I forgotten or discarded because they are difficult. </p>

<p>All of us have places where obedience feels costly or inconvenient. Yet Jesus never calls us to follow him on our own strength. Let&#39;s also look at what he does to help us? </p>

<p>Throughout the episode, we also explore:</p>

<ul>
<li>how the Holy Spirit prompts us toward deeper faithfulness</li>
<li>why some of Jesus’ teachings feel difficult and what that says about our spiritual growth</li>
<li>how grace strengthens our weak places</li>
<li>the invitation to reflect on areas where we’re not fully following him</li>
<li>the simple, daily yes that forms real discipleship</li>
</ul>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>If we truly believe Jesus is Lord, then his words matter… even the ones that challenge us. In this week’s conversation, we reflect on Luke 6:46: “Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you?” Jesus does not rebuke here, but invites each of us personally to reflect on teachings, words from God, or passages of Scripture we truly believe. Let&#39;s also allow it to be an invitation to ask: which of Jesus&#39;s words and teachings have I forgotten or discarded because they are difficult. </p>

<p>All of us have places where obedience feels costly or inconvenient. Yet Jesus never calls us to follow him on our own strength. Let&#39;s also look at what he does to help us? </p>

<p>Throughout the episode, we also explore:</p>

<ul>
<li>how the Holy Spirit prompts us toward deeper faithfulness</li>
<li>why some of Jesus’ teachings feel difficult and what that says about our spiritual growth</li>
<li>how grace strengthens our weak places</li>
<li>the invitation to reflect on areas where we’re not fully following him</li>
<li>the simple, daily yes that forms real discipleship</li>
</ul>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Friend Day: Want to Join? </title>
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  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>New Draw Near Episode! When life gets heavy, sometimes you just need a Friend Day.
Fred &amp; Kara pour some coffee, ask each other fun (and deep) questions, and invite you to join the conversation.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>45:06</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e1ddec60-ea89-4a32-a14b-8340909d71a5/episodes/f/f9a662b0-a0af-48bd-8f00-fa09cd94a429/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>Sometimes, we all just need a friend day! Grab your favorite drink and join us today for our much needed friend day chat. In this relaxed episode of Draw Near, let's cut throught the stresses and weariness. Fred and Kara catch up, asking each other questions that spark joy, honesty, and laughter. Want to join us? 
Help us grow by following the Draw Near podcast on your favorite platform. 
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Draw Near, Fred and Kara, friend day, draw near podcast, catholic podcast, christian friendship, faith and friendship, catholic spirituality, authentic friendship, prayer and community, catholic conversation, catholic encouragement, catholic ministry, real life faith, catholic marriage, christian discipleship, spiritual growth, catholic relationships, faith and laughter, christian podcast conversations, joy and faith</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, we all just need a friend day! Grab your favorite drink and join us today for <em>our</em> much needed friend day chat. In this relaxed episode of Draw Near, let&#39;s cut throught the stresses and weariness. Fred and Kara catch up, asking each other questions that spark joy, honesty, and laughter. Want to join us? </p>

<p>Help us grow by <strong>following</strong> the Draw Near podcast on your favorite platform. </p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, we all just need a friend day! Grab your favorite drink and join us today for <em>our</em> much needed friend day chat. In this relaxed episode of Draw Near, let&#39;s cut throught the stresses and weariness. Fred and Kara catch up, asking each other questions that spark joy, honesty, and laughter. Want to join us? </p>

<p>Help us grow by <strong>following</strong> the Draw Near podcast on your favorite platform. </p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>I Am Not Like the Rest of Humanity</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/228</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e1ddec60-ea89-4a32-a14b-8340909d71a5/f2ff039d-6b45-4ec4-beb6-087a2cf6526a.mp3" length="37354552" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>A Catholic reflection on Luke 18:9–14 and the battle between pride and humility. True holiness isn’t about what we do for God but about the heart. In this episode of Draw Near, Fred and Kara explore these themes. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:56</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e1ddec60-ea89-4a32-a14b-8340909d71a5/episodes/f/f2ff039d-6b45-4ec4-beb6-087a2cf6526a/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>There’s an honest difference between "looking" holy and "living" a holy life. Reflecting on Luke 18:9–14, Fred and Kara explore how pride and comparison creep into our hearts, why appearances are not what God looks at, and how one's heart is truly the measure holiness. Looking beyond all you do for God, what does your heart look like? 
Let's dive into how pride can creep into our prayer life, how comparison blinds us to grace, and why holiness is not something we achieve but an interior posture of the heart.
 Be sure the like/subscribe to DRAW NEAR on your favorite Podcast platform!
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Luke 18, parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector, Catholic podcast, Draw Near podcast, pride and humility, holiness, interior life, heart, grace, faith vs. works, interior holiness, Catholic spirituality, Christian discipleship, comparison in prayer, faith and grace, living holiness, Catholic reflection, Gospel meditation, spiritual growth, Catholic life, Fred Shellabarger, Kara Kardell</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>There’s an honest difference between &quot;looking&quot; holy and &quot;living&quot; a holy life. Reflecting on Luke 18:9–14, Fred and Kara explore how pride and comparison creep into our hearts, why appearances are <em>not</em> what God looks at, and how one&#39;s heart is truly the measure holiness. Looking beyond all you <strong>do</strong> for God, what does your heart look like? </p>

<p>Let&#39;s dive into how pride can creep into our prayer life, how comparison blinds us to grace, and why holiness is not something we achieve but an interior posture of the heart.</p>

<p><strong>Be sure the like/subscribe to DRAW NEAR on your favorite Podcast platform!</strong></p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>There’s an honest difference between &quot;looking&quot; holy and &quot;living&quot; a holy life. Reflecting on Luke 18:9–14, Fred and Kara explore how pride and comparison creep into our hearts, why appearances are <em>not</em> what God looks at, and how one&#39;s heart is truly the measure holiness. Looking beyond all you <strong>do</strong> for God, what does your heart look like? </p>

<p>Let&#39;s dive into how pride can creep into our prayer life, how comparison blinds us to grace, and why holiness is not something we achieve but an interior posture of the heart.</p>

<p><strong>Be sure the like/subscribe to DRAW NEAR on your favorite Podcast platform!</strong></p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Beyond "I’m Praying for You": Being There for Others</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/220</link>
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  <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2025 00:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e1ddec60-ea89-4a32-a14b-8340909d71a5/3dd4f427-7b72-466f-9b6e-3c946bad0ee1.mp3" length="16514009" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>Prayer is essential—but sometimes, it’s not the only thing someone needs. In some seasons, words can fall short if they aren’t paired with presence and love. This episode invites you to reflect on how we can truly support one another—not only by praying for someone, but by walking with them.

Drawing from Scripture, the wisdom of the saints, and real-life experience, we explore the power of showing up, listening well, and offering small acts of mercy. Let’s become the kind of people who pray deeply—and live that prayer out with compassion.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>9:55</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e1ddec60-ea89-4a32-a14b-8340909d71a5/episodes/3/3dd4f427-7b72-466f-9b6e-3c946bad0ee1/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>Prayer is essential—but sometimes, it’s not the only thing someone needs. In some seasons, words can fall short if they aren’t paired with presence and love. This episode invites you to reflect on how we can truly support one another—not only by praying for someone, but by walking with them.
Drawing from Scripture, the wisdom of the saints, and real-life experience, we explore the power of showing up, listening well, and offering small acts of mercy. Let’s become the kind of people who pray deeply—and live that prayer out with compassion.
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.drawnear.me/donate) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>prayer and presence, Christian friendship, faith in action, Catholic empathy, small acts of love, accompaniment, authentic prayer</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>Prayer is essential—but sometimes, it’s not the only thing someone needs. In some seasons, words can fall short if they aren’t paired with presence and love. This episode invites you to reflect on how we can truly support one another—not only by praying for someone, but by walking with them.</p>

<p>Drawing from Scripture, the wisdom of the saints, and real-life experience, we explore the power of showing up, listening well, and offering small acts of mercy. Let’s become the kind of people who pray deeply—and live that prayer out with compassion.</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Prayer is essential—but sometimes, it’s not the only thing someone needs. In some seasons, words can fall short if they aren’t paired with presence and love. This episode invites you to reflect on how we can truly support one another—not only by praying for someone, but by walking with them.</p>

<p>Drawing from Scripture, the wisdom of the saints, and real-life experience, we explore the power of showing up, listening well, and offering small acts of mercy. Let’s become the kind of people who pray deeply—and live that prayer out with compassion.</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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<item>
  <title>Life's Interruptions or Divine Invitations?  </title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/219</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2025 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e1ddec60-ea89-4a32-a14b-8340909d71a5/b6e70add-f0f1-4ec5-b3e6-0cdfdc2ff1ff.mp3" length="25976884" type="audio/mpeg"/>
  <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>What if the interruptions in your day aren’t distractions… but invitations?
When Jesus was interrupted, he didn’t push people away—he welcomed them. In this short podcast episode of Draw Near, Kara reflects on how embracing life’s interruptions can lead us to unexpected grace. What if the distractions are actually divine invitations?

</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>18:02</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
  <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/e/e1ddec60-ea89-4a32-a14b-8340909d71a5/episodes/b/b6e70add-f0f1-4ec5-b3e6-0cdfdc2ff1ff/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
  <description>What if the interruptions in your day aren’t distractions… but invitations? In this reflective "shorty," Kara shares a personal insight drawn from her own life and the life of Christ in Scripture. Jesus never pushed people away because they weren’t part of “the plan.” He embraced them as the plan.
This episode invites you to rethink the way you see the unexpected moments in your own life—those small or inconvenient interruptions—as potential encounters with God’s grace. 
This week, when you’re interrupted: Stop. Breathe. Reflect: “Lord, is this an invitation from you? Help me to embrace this moment and invite grace.”
Click to REGISTER  (https://www.drawnear.me/)for the Draw Near Retreat Aug. 9th
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.drawnear.me/donate) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Jesus, Interruptions, Christian reflections, divine invitations, podcast, Catholic, Christian, Draw Near podcast, Kara Kardell, God's plan, How Jesus responds to People, Grace, Christian Encouragement, everyday faith, living the faith, holiness</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What if the interruptions in your day aren’t distractions… but invitations? In this reflective &quot;shorty,&quot; Kara shares a personal insight drawn from her own life and the life of Christ in Scripture. Jesus never pushed people away because they weren’t part of “the plan.” He embraced them as the plan.</p>

<p>This episode invites you to rethink the way you see the unexpected moments in your own life—those small or inconvenient interruptions—as potential encounters with God’s grace. </p>

<p>This week, when you’re interrupted: Stop. Breathe. Reflect: “Lord, is this an invitation from you? Help me to embrace this moment and invite grace.”</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Click to REGISTER </a>for the Draw Near Retreat Aug. 9th</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
  </content:encoded>
  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>What if the interruptions in your day aren’t distractions… but invitations? In this reflective &quot;shorty,&quot; Kara shares a personal insight drawn from her own life and the life of Christ in Scripture. Jesus never pushed people away because they weren’t part of “the plan.” He embraced them as the plan.</p>

<p>This episode invites you to rethink the way you see the unexpected moments in your own life—those small or inconvenient interruptions—as potential encounters with God’s grace. </p>

<p>This week, when you’re interrupted: Stop. Breathe. Reflect: “Lord, is this an invitation from you? Help me to embrace this moment and invite grace.”</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Click to REGISTER </a>for the Draw Near Retreat Aug. 9th</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
  </itunes:summary>
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  <title>The Bread of Life: Rediscovering the Power of the Eucharist</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/218</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2025 00:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
  <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/e1ddec60-ea89-4a32-a14b-8340909d71a5/f7ffa849-92db-4918-a2a6-f007c8968ebe.mp3" length="68170769" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Draw Near, we reflect on the Solemnity of the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ and invite you to rediscover the power, beauty, and reality of the Eucharist. More than a symbol, the Eucharist is the living presence of Jesus—true food for the soul, strength for the weary, and healing for the brokenhearted.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>In this episode of Draw Near, we reflect on the Solemnity of the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ and invite you to rediscover the power, beauty, and reality of the Eucharist. More than a symbol, the Eucharist is the living presence of Jesus—true food for the soul, strength for the weary, and healing for the brokenhearted.
Together, we explore:
How to cultivate a deeper devotion to the Eucharist in your daily life
What it means to live eucharistically—offering your life as a gift
How the Eucharist has brought strength and healing in personal moments of struggle
With heartfelt stories, Scripture, practical takeaways, and wisdom from the saints, this episode will leave you inspired to approach every Mass and every moment with renewed gratitude and reverence.
Challenge for the Week:
Choose one simple way to deepen your Eucharistic devotion—adoration, prayer after Communion, or offering your day intentionally to God—and share it with someone.
Whether you're struggling to connect with the Eucharist or simply desire more, this episode offers encouragement and spiritual depth that will draw you closer to the Heart of Christ.
*Mentioned in this episode: *
Stay With Me - Prayer of St Padre Pio After Communion
Stay with me, Lord, for it is necessary to have You present so that I do not forget You. You know how easily I abandon You.
Stay with me, Lord, because I am weak
and I need Your strength,
that I may not fall so often.
Stay with me, Lord, for You are my life,
and without You, I am without fervor.
Stay with me, Lord, for You are my light,
and without You, I am in darkness.
Stay with me, Lord, to show me Your will.
Stay with me, Lord, so that I hear Your voice
and follow You.
Stay with me, Lord, for I desire to love You
very much, and always be in Your company.
Stay with me, Lord, if You wish me to be faithful to You.
Stay with me, Lord, for as poor as my soul is,
I want it to be a place of consolation for You, a nest of love.
Stay with me, Jesus, for it is getting late and the day is coming to a close, and life passes;
death, judgment, eternity approaches. It is necessary to renew my strength,
so that I will not stop along the way and for that, I need You.
It is getting late and death approaches,
I fear the darkness, the temptations, the dryness, the cross, the sorrows.
O how I need You, my Jesus, in this night of exile!
Stay with me tonight, Jesus, in life with all it’s dangers. I need You.
Let me recognize You as Your disciples did at the breaking of the bread,
so that the Eucharistic Communion be the Light which disperses the darkness,
the force which sustains me, the unique joy of my heart.
Stay with me, Lord, because at the hour of my death, I want to remain united to You,
if not by communion, at least by grace and love.
Stay with me, Jesus, I do not ask for divine consolation, because I do not merit it,
but the gift of Your Presence, oh yes, I ask this of You!
Stay with me, Lord, for it is You alone I look for, Your Love, Your Grace, Your Will, Your Heart, Your Spirit, because I love You and ask no other reward but to love You more and more.
With a firm love, I will love You with all my heart while on earth
and continue to love You perfectly during all eternity. Amen
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.drawnear.me/donate) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
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  <itunes:keywords>Eucharist, Bread of Life, Catholic podcast, Corpus Christi, Holy Communion, Adoration, Real Presence, living eucharistically, Catholic spirituality, sacramental life, Mass, Eucharistic devotion, Catholic teaching, liturgical life, faith and healing, spiritual nourishment, Catholic discipleship, Catholic formation, devotion to Jesus</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Draw Near, we reflect on the Solemnity of the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ and invite you to rediscover the power, beauty, and reality of the Eucharist. More than a symbol, the Eucharist is the living presence of Jesus—true food for the soul, strength for the weary, and healing for the brokenhearted.</p>

<p>Together, we explore:</p>

<ul>
<li>How to cultivate a deeper devotion to the Eucharist in your daily life</li>
<li>What it means to live eucharistically—offering your life as a gift</li>
<li>How the Eucharist has brought strength and healing in personal moments of struggle</li>
</ul>

<p>With heartfelt stories, Scripture, practical takeaways, and wisdom from the saints, this episode will leave you inspired to approach every Mass and every moment with renewed gratitude and reverence.</p>

<p>Challenge for the Week:<br>
Choose one simple way to deepen your Eucharistic devotion—adoration, prayer after Communion, or offering your day intentionally to God—and share it with someone.</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re struggling to connect with the Eucharist or simply desire more, this episode offers encouragement and spiritual depth that will draw you closer to the Heart of Christ.</p>

<p>*<em>Mentioned in this episode: *</em></p>

<p>Stay With Me - Prayer of St Padre Pio After Communion<br>
Stay with me, Lord, for it is necessary to have You present so that I do not forget You. You know how easily I abandon You.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, because I am weak<br>
and I need Your strength,<br>
that I may not fall so often.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for You are my life,<br>
and without You, I am without fervor.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for You are my light,<br>
and without You, I am in darkness.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, to show me Your will.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, so that I hear Your voice<br>
and follow You.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for I desire to love You<br>
very much, and always be in Your company.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, if You wish me to be faithful to You.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for as poor as my soul is,<br>
I want it to be a place of consolation for You, a nest of love.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Jesus, for it is getting late and the day is coming to a close, and life passes;<br>
death, judgment, eternity approaches. It is necessary to renew my strength,<br>
so that I will not stop along the way and for that, I need You.</p>

<p>It is getting late and death approaches,<br>
I fear the darkness, the temptations, the dryness, the cross, the sorrows.<br>
O how I need You, my Jesus, in this night of exile!</p>

<p>Stay with me tonight, Jesus, in life with all it’s dangers. I need You.</p>

<p>Let me recognize You as Your disciples did at the breaking of the bread,<br>
so that the Eucharistic Communion be the Light which disperses the darkness,<br>
the force which sustains me, the unique joy of my heart.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, because at the hour of my death, I want to remain united to You,<br>
if not by communion, at least by grace and love.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Jesus, I do not ask for divine consolation, because I do not merit it,<br>
but the gift of Your Presence, oh yes, I ask this of You!</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for it is You alone I look for, Your Love, Your Grace, Your Will, Your Heart, Your Spirit, because I love You and ask no other reward but to love You more and more.</p>

<p>With a firm love, I will love You with all my heart while on earth<br>
and continue to love You perfectly during all eternity. Amen</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Draw Near, we reflect on the Solemnity of the Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ and invite you to rediscover the power, beauty, and reality of the Eucharist. More than a symbol, the Eucharist is the living presence of Jesus—true food for the soul, strength for the weary, and healing for the brokenhearted.</p>

<p>Together, we explore:</p>

<ul>
<li>How to cultivate a deeper devotion to the Eucharist in your daily life</li>
<li>What it means to live eucharistically—offering your life as a gift</li>
<li>How the Eucharist has brought strength and healing in personal moments of struggle</li>
</ul>

<p>With heartfelt stories, Scripture, practical takeaways, and wisdom from the saints, this episode will leave you inspired to approach every Mass and every moment with renewed gratitude and reverence.</p>

<p>Challenge for the Week:<br>
Choose one simple way to deepen your Eucharistic devotion—adoration, prayer after Communion, or offering your day intentionally to God—and share it with someone.</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re struggling to connect with the Eucharist or simply desire more, this episode offers encouragement and spiritual depth that will draw you closer to the Heart of Christ.</p>

<p>*<em>Mentioned in this episode: *</em></p>

<p>Stay With Me - Prayer of St Padre Pio After Communion<br>
Stay with me, Lord, for it is necessary to have You present so that I do not forget You. You know how easily I abandon You.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, because I am weak<br>
and I need Your strength,<br>
that I may not fall so often.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for You are my life,<br>
and without You, I am without fervor.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for You are my light,<br>
and without You, I am in darkness.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, to show me Your will.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, so that I hear Your voice<br>
and follow You.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for I desire to love You<br>
very much, and always be in Your company.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, if You wish me to be faithful to You.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for as poor as my soul is,<br>
I want it to be a place of consolation for You, a nest of love.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Jesus, for it is getting late and the day is coming to a close, and life passes;<br>
death, judgment, eternity approaches. It is necessary to renew my strength,<br>
so that I will not stop along the way and for that, I need You.</p>

<p>It is getting late and death approaches,<br>
I fear the darkness, the temptations, the dryness, the cross, the sorrows.<br>
O how I need You, my Jesus, in this night of exile!</p>

<p>Stay with me tonight, Jesus, in life with all it’s dangers. I need You.</p>

<p>Let me recognize You as Your disciples did at the breaking of the bread,<br>
so that the Eucharistic Communion be the Light which disperses the darkness,<br>
the force which sustains me, the unique joy of my heart.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, because at the hour of my death, I want to remain united to You,<br>
if not by communion, at least by grace and love.</p>

<p>Stay with me, Jesus, I do not ask for divine consolation, because I do not merit it,<br>
but the gift of Your Presence, oh yes, I ask this of You!</p>

<p>Stay with me, Lord, for it is You alone I look for, Your Love, Your Grace, Your Will, Your Heart, Your Spirit, because I love You and ask no other reward but to love You more and more.</p>

<p>With a firm love, I will love You with all my heart while on earth<br>
and continue to love You perfectly during all eternity. Amen</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>A Chosen People: Building the Kingdom of God</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/216</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 00:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>What does it mean to be a "living stone" in God's Church? How can we live as a royal priesthood, and build communities that truly reflect the love and unity of Christ?

In this episode, Fred explores the readings for the Sixth Sunday of Easter and unpacks our identity as chosen people—called not just to believe, but to build. Drawing from Acts, Revelation, and John’s Gospel, we’ll dive into what it means to be part of something eternal and radiant: the Kingdom of God.

🔹 Discover how God is building his Church through us
🔹 Learn what it means to offer spiritual sacrifices in daily life
🔹 Be inspired to live your faith with peace, purpose, and unity

Whether you're new to the faith or a lifelong disciple, this episode will challenge and encourage you to take your place in God’s spiritual house.

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  <itunes:duration>8:44</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>What does it mean to be a "living stone" in God's Church? How can we live as a royal priesthood, and build communities that truly reflect the love and unity of Christ?
In this episode, Fred explores the readings for the Sixth Sunday of Easter and unpacks our identity as chosen people—called not just to believe, but to build. Drawing from Acts, Revelation, and John’s Gospel, we’ll dive into what it means to be part of something eternal and radiant: the Kingdom of God.
🔹 Discover how God is building his Church through us
🔹 Learn what it means to offer spiritual sacrifices in daily life
🔹 Be inspired to live your faith with peace, purpose, and unity
Whether you're new to the faith or a lifelong disciple, this episode will challenge and encourage you to take your place in God’s spiritual house.
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.drawnear.me/donate) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>living stones, spiritual growth, royal priesthood, sixth sunday of easter, building the church, kingdom of God, catholic podcast, draw near podcast, scripture reflection, easter season, peace of Christ, holy spirit, acts 15, john 14, revelation 21, chosen people, unity in the church</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>What does it mean to be a &quot;living stone&quot; in God&#39;s Church? How can we live as a royal priesthood, and build communities that truly reflect the love and unity of Christ?</p>

<p>In this episode, Fred explores the readings for the Sixth Sunday of Easter and unpacks our identity as chosen people—called not just to believe, but to build. Drawing from Acts, Revelation, and John’s Gospel, we’ll dive into what it means to be part of something eternal and radiant: the Kingdom of God.</p>

<p>🔹 Discover how God is building his Church through us<br>
🔹 Learn what it means to offer spiritual sacrifices in daily life<br>
🔹 Be inspired to live your faith with peace, purpose, and unity</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re new to the faith or a lifelong disciple, this episode will challenge and encourage you to take your place in God’s spiritual house.</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>What does it mean to be a &quot;living stone&quot; in God&#39;s Church? How can we live as a royal priesthood, and build communities that truly reflect the love and unity of Christ?</p>

<p>In this episode, Fred explores the readings for the Sixth Sunday of Easter and unpacks our identity as chosen people—called not just to believe, but to build. Drawing from Acts, Revelation, and John’s Gospel, we’ll dive into what it means to be part of something eternal and radiant: the Kingdom of God.</p>

<p>🔹 Discover how God is building his Church through us<br>
🔹 Learn what it means to offer spiritual sacrifices in daily life<br>
🔹 Be inspired to live your faith with peace, purpose, and unity</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re new to the faith or a lifelong disciple, this episode will challenge and encourage you to take your place in God’s spiritual house.</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>The Soul of the Apostolate</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/169</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2024 00:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>We are joined by our good friend Eric Gallagher over the next five epsiodes on the apostolate and the interior life! This episode originally posted as part of the Substack platform/podcast we share with Eric, called I See a Movement! We thought this series would be a blessing to all of our Draw Near listeners on your Lenten journey. And of course... we also want you to check out https://www.iseeamovement.com/ 

In this episdoe, we begin by laying a foundation for this new season. Here we look at the foundational truth, that by grace and the power of the Holy Spirit at work in our souls, we are apostles. We take an honest look at what this means for our our lives; and discuss our tendency to want to be independent and in control. We look at the value and necessity of the interior life, and the role our relationship with Christ bears in the fruitfulness of our efforts. We also take a look at the importance of prayer and humility as the greatest strength. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>55:38</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>We are joined by our good friend Eric Gallagher over the next five epsiodes on the apostolate and the interior life! This episode originally posted as part of the Substack platform/podcast we share with Eric, called I See a Movement! We thought this series would be a blessing to all of our Draw Near listeners on your Lenten journey. And of course... we also want you to check out https://www.iseeamovement.com/ 
In this episdoe, we begin by laying a foundation for this new season. Here we look at the foundational truth, that by grace and the power of the Holy Spirit at work in our souls, we are apostles. We take an honest look at what this means for our our lives; and discuss our tendency to want to be independent and in control. We look at the value and necessity of the interior life, and the role our relationship with Christ bears in the fruitfulness of our efforts. We also take a look at the importance of prayer and humility as the greatest strength. 
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.drawnear.me/donate) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/drawnear.me/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
</description>
  <itunes:keywords>Discipleship, Evangelization, Catholic, Ministry, Apostolate, Relational Ministry, Interior Life, Apostolate</itunes:keywords>
  <content:encoded>
    <![CDATA[<p>We are joined by our good friend Eric Gallagher over the next five epsiodes on the apostolate and the interior life! This episode originally posted as part of the Substack platform/podcast we share with Eric, called I See a Movement! We thought this series would be a blessing to all of our Draw Near listeners on your Lenten journey. And of course... we also want you to check out <a href="https://www.iseeamovement.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.iseeamovement.com/</a> </p>

<p>In this episdoe, we begin by laying a foundation for this new season. Here we look at the foundational truth, that by grace and the power of the Holy Spirit at work in our souls, we are apostles. We take an honest look at what this means for our our lives; and discuss our tendency to want to be independent and in control. We look at the value and necessity of the interior life, and the role our relationship with Christ bears in the fruitfulness of our efforts. We also take a look at the importance of prayer and humility as the greatest strength. </p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.drawnear.me/donate" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
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    <![CDATA[<p>We are joined by our good friend Eric Gallagher over the next five epsiodes on the apostolate and the interior life! This episode originally posted as part of the Substack platform/podcast we share with Eric, called I See a Movement! We thought this series would be a blessing to all of our Draw Near listeners on your Lenten journey. And of course... we also want you to check out <a href="https://www.iseeamovement.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.iseeamovement.com/</a> </p>

<p>In this episdoe, we begin by laying a foundation for this new season. Here we look at the foundational truth, that by grace and the power of the Holy Spirit at work in our souls, we are apostles. We take an honest look at what this means for our our lives; and discuss our tendency to want to be independent and in control. We look at the value and necessity of the interior life, and the role our relationship with Christ bears in the fruitfulness of our efforts. We also take a look at the importance of prayer and humility as the greatest strength. </p>

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