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    <title>Draw Near - Episodes Tagged with “Catholic Spirituality”</title>
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    <description>At Draw Near, we explore the beautiful truth that God, out of His deep and personal love for each of us, takes the first step to draw near. But this divine movement calls for a response—a response that shapes our lives and transforms our hearts. Together, we embark on this journey of faith, discovering the many ways God's grace and the power of the Holy Spirit work within us.
Rooted in the Catholic faith, our podcast is a space where authenticity meets joy. We’re two best friends navigating life, family, and faith with honesty, humility, and a lot of love. Each episode is a heartfelt conversation—sometimes deep, sometimes lighthearted, but always real. We strive to be vulnerable, faithful, and passionate, sharing insights and stories to inspire you on your path toward Christ.
This is more than a podcast; it’s a shared journey toward sainthood. So come laugh with us, reflect with us, and grow with us as we Draw Near to God and one another. Let’s set out together on this adventure of faith, friendship, and grace.
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    <itunes:subtitle>Helping each person to draw near to Christ and to one another. </itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>At Draw Near, we explore the beautiful truth that God, out of His deep and personal love for each of us, takes the first step to draw near. But this divine movement calls for a response—a response that shapes our lives and transforms our hearts. Together, we embark on this journey of faith, discovering the many ways God's grace and the power of the Holy Spirit work within us.
Rooted in the Catholic faith, our podcast is a space where authenticity meets joy. We’re two best friends navigating life, family, and faith with honesty, humility, and a lot of love. Each episode is a heartfelt conversation—sometimes deep, sometimes lighthearted, but always real. We strive to be vulnerable, faithful, and passionate, sharing insights and stories to inspire you on your path toward Christ.
This is more than a podcast; it’s a shared journey toward sainthood. So come laugh with us, reflect with us, and grow with us as we Draw Near to God and one another. Let’s set out together on this adventure of faith, friendship, and grace.
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  <title>Faith &amp; Fatherhood: A Conversation With My Dad</title>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Kara sits down with her dad to talk about faith, fatherhood, spiritual leadership, and the lessons learned along the way — with a few dad jokes mixed in.</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>"I sat down with my dad to ask him what he has learned as a fatherhood."
In this special episode of Draw Near, Kara sits down with her dad for an honest and heartfelt conversation about faith and fatherhood.
Together they reflect on what it means to become a father, how faith shapes parenting, what we can learn from our parents and children, and the quiet ways children absorb what their fathers believe. Along the way, there are stories, wisdom earned over time, and yes — a few classic dad jokes.
Whether you are a father, have a father, or are still healing from that relationship, this conversation invites you to consider how earthly fatherhood reflects (imperfectly but beautifully) the heart of God the Father.
Topics include:
• Growing in faith through parenting
• Spiritual leadership in the home
• Lessons learned the hard way
• What children really notice
Psalm 103:13 reminds us:
“As a father pities his children, so the LORD pities those who fear him.” (RSVCE)
We pray this episode strengthens families, encourages dads, and helps all of us draw nearer to the Father who never fails.
For reflections, formation, and community, FOLLOW Draw Near on Social Media: 
 YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara) 
 Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)
 Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara)
Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;I sat down with my dad to ask him what he has learned as a fatherhood.&quot;<br>
In this special episode of Draw Near, Kara sits down with her dad for an honest and heartfelt conversation about faith and fatherhood.</p>

<p>Together they reflect on what it means to become a father, how faith shapes parenting, what we can learn from our parents and children, and the quiet ways children absorb what their fathers believe. Along the way, there are stories, wisdom earned over time, and yes — a few classic dad jokes.</p>

<p>Whether you are a father, have a father, or are still healing from that relationship, this conversation invites you to consider how earthly fatherhood reflects (imperfectly but beautifully) the heart of God the Father.</p>

<p>Topics include:<br>
• Growing in faith through parenting<br>
• Spiritual leadership in the home<br>
• Lessons learned the hard way<br>
• What children really notice</p>

<p>Psalm 103:13 reminds us:<br>
“As a father pities his children, so the LORD pities those who fear him.” (RSVCE)</p>

<p>We pray this episode strengthens families, encourages dads, and helps all of us draw nearer to the Father who never fails.</p>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW Draw Near on Social Media:</strong> <br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn&#39;t be &quot;Draw Near&quot; without your support! <br>
Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>&quot;I sat down with my dad to ask him what he has learned as a fatherhood.&quot;<br>
In this special episode of Draw Near, Kara sits down with her dad for an honest and heartfelt conversation about faith and fatherhood.</p>

<p>Together they reflect on what it means to become a father, how faith shapes parenting, what we can learn from our parents and children, and the quiet ways children absorb what their fathers believe. Along the way, there are stories, wisdom earned over time, and yes — a few classic dad jokes.</p>

<p>Whether you are a father, have a father, or are still healing from that relationship, this conversation invites you to consider how earthly fatherhood reflects (imperfectly but beautifully) the heart of God the Father.</p>

<p>Topics include:<br>
• Growing in faith through parenting<br>
• Spiritual leadership in the home<br>
• Lessons learned the hard way<br>
• What children really notice</p>

<p>Psalm 103:13 reminds us:<br>
“As a father pities his children, so the LORD pities those who fear him.” (RSVCE)</p>

<p>We pray this episode strengthens families, encourages dads, and helps all of us draw nearer to the Father who never fails.</p>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW Draw Near on Social Media:</strong> <br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn&#39;t be &quot;Draw Near&quot; without your support! <br>
Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Penance: The Desert Where God Transforms Us</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Suffering is where transformation begins, but what does that have to do with Lent?

In this Ash Wednesday episode of Draw Near, Fred and Kara explore the meaning of penance, the purpose of the desert season, and how suffering can become a place of spiritual growth that leads toward resurrection. Why does Lent begin with ashes and words about death? How does penance train the heart? And how does the journey through sacrifice open us to new life in Christ?</itunes:subtitle>
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  <description>Suffering is where transformation begins! What does that have to do with Lent? 
Many of us approach Lent thinking about what we have to give up. But what if Lent isn’t mainly about loss… but about what God wants to build within us?
In this episode, we explore the deeper meaning of penance, suffering, and the desert season of Lent. Why does the Church begin with ashes and words about death? How does penance actually train the heart? And why does every sacrifice ultimately point toward resurrection?
Journal Questions:
1. Where in my life right now feels like a desert, and how might God be inviting me to encounter Him there rather than escape it?
2. What comfort, habit, or attachment might God be asking me to surrender so He can build something deeper in me?
3. If resurrection always follows the cross, what “new life” might God be preparing in me through this season?
For reflections, formation, and community, FOLLOW us on Social Media: 
 YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara) 
 Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)
 Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara)
Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! We wouldn't be "Draw Near" without your support! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Suffering is where <em>transformation</em> begins! What does that have to do with Lent? </p>

<p>Many of us approach Lent thinking about what we have to give up. But what if Lent isn’t mainly about loss… but about what God wants to build within us?</p>

<p>In this episode, we explore the deeper meaning of penance, suffering, and the desert season of Lent. Why does the Church begin with ashes and words about death? How does penance actually train the heart? And why does every sacrifice ultimately point toward resurrection?</p>

<p><strong>Journal Questions:</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Where in my life right now feels like a desert, and how might God be inviting me to encounter Him there rather than escape it?</li>
<li>What comfort, habit, or attachment might God be asking me to surrender so He can build something deeper in me?</li>
<li>If resurrection always follows the cross, what “new life” might God be preparing in me through this season?</li>
</ol>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW us on Social Media:</strong> <br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn&#39;t be &quot;Draw Near&quot; without your support! <br>
Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Suffering is where <em>transformation</em> begins! What does that have to do with Lent? </p>

<p>Many of us approach Lent thinking about what we have to give up. But what if Lent isn’t mainly about loss… but about what God wants to build within us?</p>

<p>In this episode, we explore the deeper meaning of penance, suffering, and the desert season of Lent. Why does the Church begin with ashes and words about death? How does penance actually train the heart? And why does every sacrifice ultimately point toward resurrection?</p>

<p><strong>Journal Questions:</strong></p>

<ol>
<li>Where in my life right now feels like a desert, and how might God be inviting me to encounter Him there rather than escape it?</li>
<li>What comfort, habit, or attachment might God be asking me to surrender so He can build something deeper in me?</li>
<li>If resurrection always follows the cross, what “new life” might God be preparing in me through this season?</li>
</ol>

<p>For reflections, formation, and community, <strong>FOLLOW us on Social Media:</strong> <br>
 <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara" rel="nofollow">YouTube</a> <br>
 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a><br>
 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “follow” button and tell your friends. :)</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! We wouldn&#39;t be &quot;Draw Near&quot; without your support! <br>
Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>Still Here</title>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 06:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>Draw Near is still here. In this episode, we share where the ministry is right now, why we’re returning to our “why,” and how God has been gently guiding a shift in rhythm and direction. Rooted in Isaiah 42:3, we reflect on Jesus as the Servant who tends what is fragile with mercy and care—and why this season is not about fading, but faithful discernment.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:46</itunes:duration>
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  <description>Draw Near is still here—and this episode is all about returning to our "why."
After a season of being in and out, adjusting rhythms, and letting life take its course, we wanted to speak honestly about where Draw Near is right now and how God has been gently guiding us forward. This episode invites you into our discernment, hope, and trust.
Rooted in Isaiah 42:3, we reflect on the image of the Servant who does not break a bruised reed or extinguish a dimly burning wick. These words have shaped how we understand this season; It has not been a failure or fading, but as a time of careful tending. Jesus knows how to work with what is fragile. He repairs without rushing and restores without pressure.
We share how this passage has helped us see the recent shifts in Draw Near as an invitation to listen more closely, allowing the Spirit to breathe life into the work in more sustainable ways. The mission remains. The vision endures. What’s changing is the rhythm.
If you’ve ever wondered whether something good was slipping away—or whether a quieter season meant God was less present—this episode is for you. 
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)! 
Subscribe to Draw Near YOUTUBE Channel Here (https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara). 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
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    <![CDATA[<p>Draw Near is still here—and this episode is all about returning to our &quot;why.&quot;</p>

<p>After a season of being in and out, adjusting rhythms, and letting life take its course, we wanted to speak honestly about where Draw Near is right now and how God has been gently guiding us forward. This episode invites you into our discernment, hope, and trust.</p>

<p>Rooted in Isaiah 42:3, we reflect on the image of the Servant who does not break a bruised reed or extinguish a dimly burning wick. These words have shaped how we understand this season; It has not been a failure or fading, but as a time of careful tending. Jesus knows how to work with what is fragile. He repairs without rushing and restores without pressure.</p>

<p>We share how this passage has helped us see the recent shifts in Draw Near as an invitation to listen more closely, allowing the Spirit to breathe life into the work in more sustainable ways. The mission remains. The vision endures. What’s changing is the rhythm.</p>

<p>If you’ve ever wondered whether something good was slipping away—or whether a quieter season meant God was less present—this episode is for you. </p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! <br>
Subscribe to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Draw Near YOUTUBE Channel Here</a>. </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Draw Near is still here—and this episode is all about returning to our &quot;why.&quot;</p>

<p>After a season of being in and out, adjusting rhythms, and letting life take its course, we wanted to speak honestly about where Draw Near is right now and how God has been gently guiding us forward. This episode invites you into our discernment, hope, and trust.</p>

<p>Rooted in Isaiah 42:3, we reflect on the image of the Servant who does not break a bruised reed or extinguish a dimly burning wick. These words have shaped how we understand this season; It has not been a failure or fading, but as a time of careful tending. Jesus knows how to work with what is fragile. He repairs without rushing and restores without pressure.</p>

<p>We share how this passage has helped us see the recent shifts in Draw Near as an invitation to listen more closely, allowing the Spirit to breathe life into the work in more sustainable ways. The mission remains. The vision endures. What’s changing is the rhythm.</p>

<p>If you’ve ever wondered whether something good was slipping away—or whether a quieter season meant God was less present—this episode is for you. </p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! <br>
Subscribe to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Draw Near YOUTUBE Channel Here</a>. </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

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  <title>I Am Not Like the Rest of Humanity</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/228</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:subtitle>A Catholic reflection on Luke 18:9–14 and the battle between pride and humility. True holiness isn’t about what we do for God but about the heart. In this episode of Draw Near, Fred and Kara explore these themes. </itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>25:56</itunes:duration>
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  <description>There’s an honest difference between "looking" holy and "living" a holy life. Reflecting on Luke 18:9–14, Fred and Kara explore how pride and comparison creep into our hearts, why appearances are not what God looks at, and how one's heart is truly the measure holiness. Looking beyond all you do for God, what does your heart look like? 
Let's dive into how pride can creep into our prayer life, how comparison blinds us to grace, and why holiness is not something we achieve but an interior posture of the heart.
 Be sure the like/subscribe to DRAW NEAR on your favorite Podcast platform!
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
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"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
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    <![CDATA[<p>There’s an honest difference between &quot;looking&quot; holy and &quot;living&quot; a holy life. Reflecting on Luke 18:9–14, Fred and Kara explore how pride and comparison creep into our hearts, why appearances are <em>not</em> what God looks at, and how one&#39;s heart is truly the measure holiness. Looking beyond all you <strong>do</strong> for God, what does your heart look like? </p>

<p>Let&#39;s dive into how pride can creep into our prayer life, how comparison blinds us to grace, and why holiness is not something we achieve but an interior posture of the heart.</p>

<p><strong>Be sure the like/subscribe to DRAW NEAR on your favorite Podcast platform!</strong></p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<p>There’s an honest difference between &quot;looking&quot; holy and &quot;living&quot; a holy life. Reflecting on Luke 18:9–14, Fred and Kara explore how pride and comparison creep into our hearts, why appearances are <em>not</em> what God looks at, and how one&#39;s heart is truly the measure holiness. Looking beyond all you <strong>do</strong> for God, what does your heart look like? </p>

<p>Let&#39;s dive into how pride can creep into our prayer life, how comparison blinds us to grace, and why holiness is not something we achieve but an interior posture of the heart.</p>

<p><strong>Be sure the like/subscribe to DRAW NEAR on your favorite Podcast platform!</strong></p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <title>The Hemorrhaging Woman: Desperate for Healing</title>
  <link>https://drawnear.fireside.fm/227</link>
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  <pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
  <author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</author>
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  <itunes:author>Fred Shellabarger and Kara Kardell</itunes:author>
  <itunes:subtitle>A Lectio Divina reflection on the hemorrhaging woman in Mark 5. In this Catholic podcast episode of Draw Near, we reflect on her desperate faith, twelve years of suffering, and the moment Jesus stops everything to heal her and call her out of shame.</itunes:subtitle>
  <itunes:duration>26:06</itunes:duration>
  <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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  <description>Imagine Jesus stopping everything just to find you and heal you. That’s exactly what happens in the story of the hemorrhaging woman. In this Lectio Divine episode, Fred and Kara pray with this passage and reflect on the woman's need to "touch" Jesus and how her circumstances during 12 years of suffering would have led to her "desperate" faith. In addition to spiritual themes, this episode also talks about Jesus' initiative to seek the woman and invite her out of her hiding place of shame and into healing.
Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near "booking page (https://www.drawnear.me/booking)."
Click here (https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership) to become a patron! Patrons are essentially "sponsors" and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. 
"Like" and follow us on Facebook! (https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara). Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/)! 
Who are "Fred and Kara?" Find out by visiting our home page.  (https://www.drawnear.me/)
Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! 
Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp;amp; Kara Kardell 
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  <itunes:keywords>Catholic podcast, Draw Near, Fred and Kara, hemorrhaging woman, bleeding woman in the Bible, Mark 5 reflection, Jesus who touched me, desperate faith, Jesus healing stories, Lectio Divina podcast, Catholic Bible study, shame and healing, Jesus stops for the broken, faith and suffering, Jewish purity laws, Jairus’ daughter and hemorrhaging woman, spiritual healing in scripture, Catholic podcast on healing, Jesus and interruptions, encountering Jesus in suffering</itunes:keywords>
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    <![CDATA[<p>Imagine Jesus stopping <em>everything</em> just to find you and heal you. That’s exactly what happens in the story of the hemorrhaging woman. In this Lectio Divine episode, Fred and Kara pray with this passage and reflect on the woman&#39;s need to &quot;touch&quot; Jesus and how her circumstances during 12 years of suffering would have led to her &quot;desperate&quot; faith. In addition to spiritual themes, this episode also talks about Jesus&#39; initiative to seek the woman and invite her out of her hiding place of shame and into healing.</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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  <itunes:summary>
    <![CDATA[<p>Imagine Jesus stopping <em>everything</em> just to find you and heal you. That’s exactly what happens in the story of the hemorrhaging woman. In this Lectio Divine episode, Fred and Kara pray with this passage and reflect on the woman&#39;s need to &quot;touch&quot; Jesus and how her circumstances during 12 years of suffering would have led to her &quot;desperate&quot; faith. In addition to spiritual themes, this episode also talks about Jesus&#39; initiative to seek the woman and invite her out of her hiding place of shame and into healing.</p>

<p>Book Fred and/or Kara to speak by visiting the Draw Near &quot;<a href="https://www.drawnear.me/booking" rel="nofollow">booking page</a>.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/drawnear/membership" rel="nofollow">Click here</a> to become a patron! Patrons are essentially &quot;sponsors&quot; and co-producers or Draw Near as it could not happen without them. <br>
&quot;Like&quot; and follow us on <a href="https://www.facebook.com/fredandkara" rel="nofollow">Facebook!</a>. Follow us on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/fredandkara/" rel="nofollow">Instagram</a>! </p>

<p>Who are &quot;Fred and Kara?&quot; Find out by visiting our <a href="https://www.drawnear.me/" rel="nofollow">home page. </a></p>

<p>Like our podcast? Hit that “subscribe” button AND the notification button/bell to know when new episodes are posted! Give us a rating! Leave a review! Tell your friends! Even more, pray for us! </p>

<p>Draw Near Theme © Fred Shellabarger &amp; Kara Kardell</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/drawnear">Support Draw Near</a></p>]]>
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